UNDANGAN MILIS SEPEDA TUA BELANDA

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From : Bas Groot
to : To Indonesian Old Bicycle Lovers Community
date : Jun 23, 2007 3:07 PM
subject : From Holland To Indonesian Old Bicycle Lovers Community

Hello,

Pictures from old bicycles can be found in the Yahoo group ‘oudefietsen’, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oudefietsen

This is a mailing list with 70 members sharing information about Dutch bikes.

I saw Mr. Laexs already joined our group.

To join, send an e-mail to oudefietsen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, with subject ‘Subscribe’. Follow the instructions in the reply message.

The pictures can be found here: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/oudefietsen/photos

Best regards,

Bas

Note admin : Buat temen-temen sepeda yang ingin (berkecimpung ~ mode Om Linking*) dalam milis tersebut, minimal ikut tengok2 foto sepeda di negara Belanda Tempoe Doeloe … silahkan 🙂

48 thoughts on “UNDANGAN MILIS SEPEDA TUA BELANDA”

  13. Mohon maaf..sehubungan ada kabar burung yang berhembus tentang KOBA Distrik Tangerang yang nyebrang ke “senayan”, setelah dicurigai beberapa minggu tidak nongol di HI!

    Dengan ini kami beritahukan bahwa kabar itu BENAR ADANYA!! 100% KOBA distrik Tangerang ke “Senayan”!!!

    ini dikuatkan dengan diutusnya fahmi-Mbetmen sebagai
    wakil Koba Tangerang yang pada hari Minggu 24 juni 2007 menuju “senayan” atas undangan VIP langsung dari organisasi P**I, kenyataannya…… sambutan luar biasa dan cukup hangat dari temen2 di”senayan” memang membanggakan, kami luruskan pula bahwa rumor negatif tentang “senayan” mohon untuk DIHILANGKAN !!! karna kenyataannya rekan-rekan dan pendukung P**I cukup semangat dan heboh!!
    kedatangan fahmi-Mbetmen ini juga diamini oleh Heru P (KOBA) yang mengantar ke”senayan” walaupun yg bersangkutan tidak sampai ke “senayan”… malah memilih untuk pulang ke srengseng!

    tapi…….. kenyatannya…….walaupun dengan perjuangan dan semangat pantang menyerah, sangat mengharukan dan menyedihkan P**I harus mengakui kehebatan Oman 0-1, dalam duel yang berlangsung keras kemarin minggu (24/6)

    Jadi untuk seluruh anggota KOBA mohon untuk tidak antipati datang ke”SEnayan”!! kita dukung P**I (PSSI..hehehehe) nanti di Piala Asia 2007 mulai 9 juli – 29 juli !!! karna Sepak Bola adalah…filosofi Hidup dan Hiburan abadi Rakjat indonesia!!

    HIDUP KOBA!!!!

    HIDUP P**I !!!!(hehehe…PSSI)

    HIDDUP “senayan” !!!!!(Gelora Bung Karno)

    HIDDUP KOBA distrik TangeraNG!!!

    KOBA Never DIE!!

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  17. Cing Nino, ngomongnya ga usah pake bahasa Londo, ini kan undangan nya dari Suriname, jadi pake bahasa jawa lebih dimengerti gitu ganti……apa dicopy roger ganti….creek..creek…

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  18. Waduh ada aja tingkah Tangerang info. karena ada sesuatu hal nanti siang kita ber empat akan ke gd joang 45 untuk menghadap bunda Nani untuk komfirmasi hari HUT KOBA ke 2. doain temen 2 moga tidak ada halangan untuk itu. salam

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  20. hallo bang chandra titipannya udah di kasih sama sony belum gimana kelanjutannya………no tlp sony kemayoran berapa yah.

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  25. Semoga KOBA makin Jaya pada hari jadi koba ke 2

    kang acep yang dari Contry tambun
    penggerak comonity onter Tridaya tambun
    semangat terus agar COBA semakin jaya

    Salam

    Surachman

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  26. HELLO ABANG ABANG COBA
    MINTA MAAF NIH ANE IKUTAN BERGABUNG

    SALAM BUAT BANG CHANDRA DAN BANG JHON
    SEMOGA SEHAT WALAFIAT DAN COBA
    MAKIN MAJU

    SALAM
    SURACHMAN

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  30. Hallo Indonesia,

    I saw some pictures with old bikes from Holland in Indonesia on the internet.
    Funny that you like old Dutch bicycles more than the people in Holland itself !
    I have some old Gazelles from 1912 – 1940, and some specials from Gazelle (X-frames) from 1960’s.
    In total about 25 oltimers, most of them Gazelle, but also a few Fongers.

    It is a pitty you don’t have enough spareparts, in Holland it is a bit better, I have lots of spareparts.
    I saw you use Chinese parts on old bikes from Holland, ofcause this is the only solution for you to keep the bike roling. though the quality of chinese bikes is not so good…
    I saw you use chrome luggage-racks on black bikes from Holland !
    If I may give you one advise; paint the chrome (chinese) luggage-rack (pakjedrager in Holland) BLACK, in Holland these have ALWAYS been black on old biciycles.

    In Holland there is only one old bicycle-club ! it is caled “de oude fiets”, and it has only a few hundert members !
    I am “Gazelle specialist” of our club, I studied the old Gazelle-archives of the Gazelle-factory in Dieren (Holland) and made lots of notices and pictures of the old archives.
    I am the proud owner of a 1912 Gazelle-Girder-frame bicycle, these are only made from 1910-1912 !
    As far as we know this is the only bike of these left over (at least in Holland)
    I also have an 78 cm (!) X-frame Gazelle of 1929, one of the first the factory made.
    Further I have a Mohawk-frame Gazelle from 1932 with webb-spring frontsuspension, this has been an old police-bike.
    And some very old bikes from 1912-1928.
    In Holland we mostly collect the special bikes the Dutch factory’s made or the very old bikes from the beginning of the production in the first years of the previus century.

    This is because in Holland there are so many old bicycles left.
    If you collect every pre-war-bicycle in Holland, you have hundreds of bikes in a few years.
    And we (at least I) don’t have space to store them !

    The webside of “vereniging de oude fiets” is;

    http://www.oudefiets.nl

    Another good site is the website of Herbert Kuner, Herbert is also a member of our club (vereniging) and he did a lot of resurge;
    http://www.rijwiel.net

    I hope you understand my English, it is not 100%…..
    Best regards and greeting from the other side of the world!,

    Andre Koopmans
    Holland
    mail; akoopmans@omrin.nl

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  33. Hallo Mr T and Wong-cilik,

    A few of my old bicycles you can see on the yahoo forum. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oudefietsen/
    If you look at “Photos” you can see many bikes of dutch members of mostly “vereniging de oude fiets”.
    Most of these bikes have all original parts, some of them are even unrestorated.
    On my name “By andrekoopmans” there is an explanation about pre-war Gazelle front-chain-wheels.
    In the text under the pictures (in dutch) I explain the different types of front-chain-wheels the Gazelle factory used during the periode ~1901 – 1946.
    There are also foto’s of a few of my unrestored Gazelles, all the pictures are unrestoreted bikes.
    Only the big 75 cm X-frame Gazelle of 1929 is restoreted because this bike was in a very bad condition when I found it.
    In Holland we mostly like to keep the bikes as original as possible, more or less as they left the bicycle-factory when they were new.
    I only re-paint bikes if they are in very bad condition, otherwise I keep them “as found”.
    In the pictures of my Gazelle 1916 you see a completely authentic Gazelle from 1916, this bike was found in a house in Den Haag, where it stood under a blanked for about 60 years !
    The bike is not used since 1931 !

    I do not know how much you in Indonesia know about old Gazelle-bikes.
    Let me tell you a few things you maybe already know (?)

    I have a list with Gazelle frame-numbers, on the list you can find the exact building year of every Gazelle-bike ever made.
    the frame-number on old Gazelles is always on the right side under the saddle (on saddle-lug).
    Do Indonesian Gazelle-people know the existence of this list ?

    From 1924 (from framenumber 187.227 on) the word “GAZELLE” is stamped in every Gazelle-frame, this because other bicycle-builders in those years also tried to build (fake-)gazelles!

    From 1925 (from framenumber 220.000 on) the Gazelle Copper-frame-plate changed.
    From the beginning the frame-plate had a Gazelle-head on top of it (only the head), in 1925 this was changed in the whole gazelle animal springing in front of a wheel.

    On the female-bicycles the roud frame-tube is mostly round from the vertical tube till the top of the steering tube.
    Only from 1906-1930 Gazelle female-bikes had the first 30 cm of the round-tube in a strait line.
    On this you can easely recognise pre 1930-gazelles, the first 30 cm are straigt, from there the tube is bend round until it reaches the vertical frame-tube.

    The first Gazelle drumbrakes of the factory in Dieren were build at the end of 1929. (drum’s with 6 nails on the axel)

    before the war Gazelle had it’s own lamps/dynamo’s, this wer ARKO (from ARendsen en KÖlling) ELGA (from ELectrisch Licht Gazelle) and PRICO (from PRIma COncurentie)

    In 1931 Gazelle-factory started to produce Chrome parts in stead of Nikkel.
    Also an (original) 1930 (or older) Gazelle-bike can never have chrome-parts !
    Gazelle-bikes newer than 1931 can have nikkle parts because in those years you could chose if you wanted chrome or nikkle-parts on your new bike. Chrome was more expensive !

    Gazelle started to produce the rear-light welded on the back-fender (spatbord) from 1938 on. In Holland this rear-light is called “varkensneus” (pig-nose).
    On cheaper bikes you could chose rear-lamps like the “Koets A”, “Spanninga”, “T.M.I.” or “Phillips”.

    Pre-war gazelle-cranks can be recognised by the the way of writing of the word “gazelle” on them.
    before (and in) the war “Gazelle”was spelled with a big “G” and the rest of the word written in small letters. (Gazelle)
    After the war “GAZELLE” on the cranks was completely written in big letters. (GAZELLE)

    I can write a lot more but maybe you in Indonesia already know these things.

    Are there a lot of old Gazelles in Indonesia, and if so, how old are they ?
    Can you still find nice original pre-war bicycles in Indonesia and buy them very cheap like in Holland ?

    In Holland there is a website that is called “Marktplaats”, here you can find almost everything what is for sale.
    It is a sort of EBAY, but only for Holland.
    On this site there is also a small part for oldtimer-bicycles.
    You can find theme by going to marktplaats and than clicking on “fietsen en accesoires” and than scroll to “Oldtimers”.
    There is a lot of rubbish for sale, but there are also some nice oldtimerbikes sometimes !

    http://www.marktplaats.nl

    Greetings from Holland,
    Best regards,

    Andre Koopmans
    Makkinga,
    Holland
    mail; akoopmans@omrin.nl

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  34. In my country, I think quite a lot gazelle bicycle here but to get cheap with condition of which original very difficult… that my opinion….I have see bicycle collection, how many bikes do you have in your sheed?

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  37. dia bilang kalau mau liat beberapa koleksinya silahkan ke http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oudefietsen/ forum ini…nah tulisan diatas itu bercerita tentang sepedanya di web yg disebut kan tadi perbedaan gear yang digunakan selama periode 1901 – 1946.
    kalau diceritain smua mah ane juga pusing.. 😀 yang pada intinya disana juga sama kalau dapet sepeda yg orsinilan masih bagus ya dijaga keasliannya kecuali kalau dah demek banget baru direstorasi…bhs inggris ane mah nggak ade ape-apenya…coba ntar nunggu kakang Buaya krontjongan kali -kali aja bisa translate semuanye….

    * cerita diatas bagus banget buat kita-kita onthel maniak buat nambah wawasan*

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  43. Saya sedang merintis Komunitas Sepeda Onthel Kuno Cepu JATENG. untuk para peminat sepeda onthel Khususnya kota Cepu,Umumnya kota Cepu mari bergabung bareng-bareng bangun Komunitas Sepeda Onthel Cepu untuk Melestarikan Peninggalan Sejarah.karena tidak diperhatikan oleh Generasi Penerus,mungkin saja Sepeda Onthel bisa menjadi ASSET Pribadi.

    salam Ketua,
    Onthel Ronggolawe Club Cepu

    HENDRA WIJAYA,SE

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  44. Mas Hendra Wijaya Salam kenal !!

    Klo mau merintis, coba daerah Celangap, Tobo, Padangan dst. itu masih banyak dan perlu diajak bergabung. Monggo disurvey.-

    Salam.-

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  45. Pak Hendra, salam kenal.
    Bersepeda di antara lebatnya hutan jati di saat semi seperti ini sungguh eksotis. Cepu, Doplang, Randublatung, dan sekitarnya tentu masih menyimpan sepeda-sepeda onthel yang bagus karena relatif kurang terekspose. Ayo Pak Hendra, dimulai… Di Blora juga kan dulunya banyak keluarga Belanda yang tinggal di sana? Adakah warisannya? 🙂

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  48. Saya sedang usaha merintis menyatukan para penggemar sepeda onthel khususnya yang ada di Blora ( Jawa- Tengah ) tercinta ini dengan nama : COBRA ( COMUNITAS ONTHEL BLORA ) Silakan para rekan2 yang merasa warga Blora yang mempunyai sepeda Kuno, Antik, Kebo silakan gabung disini.
    Alamat : Jl.Gelatik 8 n0. 11 Perumnas Karangjati – Blora.

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